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Another JW Pedo Jailed - this time from Glasgow

by Jim Dee in

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jehovahs witness jailed for sexually abusing boythomas gold groomed the child and subjected him to indecent acts over a seven-year period.. 19 october 2010 14:46 gmt.

comments (8) 203655. high court: heard gold took the boy to his kingdom hall.

pic: stv.

Jim Dee

Jehovah’s Witness jailed for sexually abusing boy

Thomas Gold groomed the child and subjected him to indecent acts over a seven-year period.

19 October 2010 14:46 GMT

Comments (8)

203655

High Court: Heard Gold took the boy to his Kingdom Hall. Pic: © STV

A Jehovah's Witness who groomed a boy before subjecting him to sexual abuse has been jailed for six years and eight months.

Lord Bannatyne told Thomas Gold that it was clear his criminal conduct had "a considerable impact" on the victim.

The judge said at the High Court in Edinburgh: "The behaviour occurred over a substantial period of time and started when he was seven years old."

The judge said that a background report on 45-year-old Gold had described him as having "systematically groomed" the youngster in order to sexually abuse him.

He ordered that Gold, of Moir Street, Alloa, in Clackmannanshire, should also be kept under supervision for a further 40 months.

Unemployed Gold earlier admitted committing indecency towards the boy on various occasions between November 1996 and November in 2003 at a house in Tullibody, in Clackmannanshire.

The victim revealed the abuse to relatives last year and later went to police. Gold later gave details of his offending to police, although at one stage during an interview he said he felt sick.

The court heard that when the boy was seven Gold had begun kissing and cuddling him and assured him it was alright to do such things. But over time his behaviour escalated and he began performing sex acts on the child.

The youngster was also taken out canvassing by Gold in his capacity as a Jehovah's Witness and he would take him to the Kingdom Hall. But as a teenager the victim revealed to elders at his church what had been taking place.

Advocate depute Alison Di Rollo said they told him it was wrong and warned that if it continued he would be "dis-fellowshipped" as the church disapproved of homosexual behaviour. They also tried to persuade him to go to the police.

Gold was also spoken to and said: "I wish I'd never started this."

Ms Di Rollo said the victim later saw a psychiatrist “in relation to suicidal thoughts and depression".

Defence solicitor advocate Brian Gilfedder said: "As far as the offence is concerned it is very difficult for me to stand here and say anything that could be described as mitigation."

"The accused is well aware and has been well aware that this was wrong. It is accepted by him that a sentence of imprisonment is inevitable," he said.

He added that Gold had never really been in trouble before.

Gold was placed on the sex offenders' register for the rest of his life

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This is unbeleivable - the Elders told him"If it continues you will be disfellowshipped" - in otherwords what you did before is ok, but don't do it again - why did't they march him down to the police station IMMEDIATELY and let the police sort it out. Mill Hill would have known about it and authorised this "Cover Up"

Worst Ever

Jim

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JWD form being removed. WTBTS will rejoice

by Jim Dee in

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the post a few days ago saying that the discussion forum must be removed is sad.

its sad because it gives troubled ones a way of leaving the wtbts .

its sad because it removes support to ones damaged by the wtbts .

Jim Dee

The post a few days ago saying that the discussion forum must be removed is sad.

Its sad because it gives troubled ones a way of leaving the WTBTS
Its sad because it removes support to ones damaged by the WTBTS
Its upsetting because free voice against the WTBTS has been removed

My brother in law - CO in UK - said the announcement went through London Bethel like a dose of salts. Elders were laughing and almost doing "high 5's"

They see the closure as a sign that no matter how many missiles are thrown, Jehovahs Organisation always wins - they are "Standing back and watching Jehovah winning". "Keep the faith in Jehovah and he will always be victorious.

JWD's closure also destroys credence to a number of statements on the JWD:-

UN/NGO gossip,
Child Molestation Gossip,
Exposure of the secret database
Ron Drage's alleged involvement in coverups,
The way the JWD co-operated with Satans Media (panorama),
Leaking of confidential letters
leaking of changes in Jehovahs Organisation
Leaks on confidential settlements on child abuse
Exposure on Leo Greenleas - truth about his abuse
Suicides in bethal
Bethel Apostasy - accounts now out
Promotion of illegal books such as "crisis of conscience"
Truthful discussions about congregation life
Accounts of abuse by elders in congregations across the world
Accounts of strange brothers and sisters
Accounts of actions by elders
Relocations of bethel from london
Amounts Brooklyn property sold for
Issues at Patterson
Changes in policy being announced here before even the congregations elders know
Accounts and agendas from secret elders training schools
Details on new literature releases - spoiling the brothers joy at their conventions release

And above all - Silent Lambs

WTBTS are jumping with joy at this closure - and heap praise and thanks to the morons that upset the moderators.

Congratulations to the idiots that destroyed it , I hope you are feeling proud of yourselves - you must feel so self satisfied that you have destroyed exposure of the truth for the 99.5% honest people on this board

Jim

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JWD form being removed. WTBTS will rejoice

by Jim Dee in

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the post a few days ago saying that the discussion forum must be removed is sad.

its sad because it gives troubled ones a way of leaving the wtbts its sad because it removes support to ones damaged by the wtbts its upsetting because free voice against the wtbts has been removed

my brother in law - co in uk - said the announcement went through london bethel like a dose of salts.

Jim Dee

The post a few days ago saying that the discussion forum must be removed is sad. Its sad because it gives troubled ones a way of leaving the WTBTS Its sad because it removes support to ones damaged by the WTBTS Its upsetting because free voice against the WTBTS has been removed My brother in law - CO in UK - said the announcement went through London Bethel like a dose of salts. Elders were laughing and almost doing "high 5's" They see the closure as a sign that no matter how many missiles are thrown, Jehovahs Organisation always wins - they are "Standing back and watching Jehovah winning". "Keep the faith in Jehovah and he will always be victorious. JWD's closure also destroys credence to a number of statements on the JWD:- UN/NGO gossip, Child Molestation Gossip, Exposure of the secret database Ron Drage's alleged involvement in coverups, The way the JWD co-operated with Satans Media (panorama), Leaking of confidential letters leaking of changes in Jehovahs Organisation Leaks on confidential settlements on child abuse Exposure on Leo Greenleas - truth about his abuse Suicides in bethal Bethel Apostasy - accounts now out Promotion of illegal books such as "crisis of conscience" Truthful discussions about congregation life Accounts of abuse by elders in congregations across the world Accounts of strange brothers and sisters Accounts of actions by elders Relocations of bethel from london Amounts Brooklyn property sold for Issues at Patterson Changes in policy being announced here before even the congregations elders know Accounts and agendas from secret elders training schools Details on new literature releases - spoiling the brothers joy at their conventions release And above all - Silent Lambs WTBTS are jumping with joy at this closure - and heap praise and thanks to the morons that upset the moderators. Congratulations to the idiots that destroyed it , I hope you are feeling proud of yourselves - you must feel so self satisfied that you have destroyed exposure of the truth for the 99.5% honest people on this board Jim

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What Careers, Opportunities Did you Have to Sacrifice - to be a Witness ?

by flipper in

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i know this may be an annoying subject .

but if you did have to give up doing what you wanted in a career or opportunity - what was it ?

how controlling was the organization over you, and were you counseled by elders or higher ups to not pursue certain jobs, opportunities, college , etc - so that you stayed in the witnesses for awhile ; not doing what you wanted?

Jim Dee

When I worked at a ship yard in northern UK I became involved in Nuclear technology that sometimes included Subs.

I was studying at the time - about to get baptised - horror of horrors, Nuclear. Anyway I just didn't tell anyone and carried on as a Nuclear specialist and then went to work at the power plant.

Had many elders criticise me for being involved in Nuclear technology but somehow, years later, those same elders always seemed to be counseled for adultery, financial irregularities, gambling, family issues etc etc. One of the biggest critics from my early days, I have just heard from Gordy, has left the truth - he used to say "to be a good JW and elder means keeping your life simple, I can get you a job with me at my Christian Cleaning Company - cleaning windows" - Twonk.

I'm glad I just ignored the sods and went my own way - albeit in the truth for many years

Jim

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Horrible Apostates fall into Jehovahs Trap

by Jim Dee in

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as you guys are probably aware, the new watchtower for studying has shed new light on the generations issue (ie whoops we got it wrong, we were right before)

the co's here in aus have been briefed to inform the congregation (either formally or informally) that is is part of the cunning of jehovah

when jesus parted the non beleiver disciples from the core 12 (or was it 13) he made an outrageous statement and watched the weak walk off - thats exactly what jehovahs organisation has done today

Jim Dee

As you guys are probably aware, the new Watchtower for studying has shed new light on the generations issue (ie whoops we got it wrong, we were right before) The CO's here in Aus have been briefed to inform the congregation (either formally or informally) that is is part of the cunning of Jehovah When Jesus parted the Non beleiver disciples from the core 12 (or was it 13) he made an outrageous statement and watched the weak walk off - thats exactly what Jehovahs organisation has done today By testing Jehovahs "Meek", the apostates and unbeleivers have stormed off "to the evil bird catchers on the internet" and "fallen prey to weak thinking and unfaithfullness" "We thank Jehovah that those faithful have stood by Jehovahs organisation whilst this great sifting work has been undertaken and that only those who are faithful and have the new edition of the watchtower are blessed to know Jehovahs real plan" stated out CO on his visit this weak And they beleive it!!!!!!!!?????????? Forget the Pedo's and the UN, its all about who gets the latest watchtower Jim

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Horrible Apostates fall into Jehovahs Trap

by Jim Dee in

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as you guys are probably aware, the new watchtower for studying has shed new light on the generations issue (ie whoops we got it wrong, we were right before) .

the co's here in aus have been briefed to inform the congregation (either formally or informally) that is is part of the cunning of jehovah .

when jesus parted the non beleiver disciples from the core 12 (or was it 13) he made an outrageous statement and watched the weak walk off - thats exactly what jehovahs organisation has done today .

Jim Dee

As you guys are probably aware, the new Watchtower for studying has shed new light on the generations issue (ie whoops we got it wrong, we were right before)

The CO's here in Aus have been briefed to inform the congregation (either formally or informally) that is is part of the cunning of Jehovah

When Jesus parted the Non beleiver disciples from the core 12 (or was it 13) he made an outrageous statement and watched the weak walk off - thats exactly what Jehovahs organisation has done today

By testing Jehovahs "Meek", the apostates and unbeleivers have stormed off "to the evil bird catchers on the internet" and "fallen prey to weak thinking and unfaithfullness"

"We thank Jehovah that those faithful have stood by Jehovahs organisation whilst this great sifting work has been undertaken and that only those who are faithful and have the new edition of the watchtower are blessed to know Jehovahs real plan" stated out CO on his visit this weak

And they beleive it!!!!!!!!?????????? Forget the Pedo's and the UN, its all about who gets the latest watchtower

Jim

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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST

by DannyHaszard in

man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.

michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.

among the individuals were others involved in the faith.

Jim Dee

If what is said by Thomas is Accurate, then Bethel is nailed

The trail to promote Pedofiles leads all the way to the chairman of JWs in the UK,

1. Porter worked in Bethel

2. Porter was appointed (by Holy Spirit directing the work) to an elder, he was given positions of trust, he was a trustee in the congregation of Mill Hill

3. Porter was given, by Ron Drage et al an elevated position in Bethel for 7 years 4. What did he (Porter) do (Look after the service desk, protect the Pedofiles???)

This all took place on Ron Drage's et al shift, Ron and his fellow elders should all take collective responsibility and stand down

Jim

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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST

by DannyHaszard in

man escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.

michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.

among the individuals were others involved in the faith.

Jim Dee

If what is said by Thomas is Accurate, then Bethel is nailed

The trail to promote Pedofiles leads all the way to the chairman of JWs in the UK,

1. Porter worked in Bethel

2. Porter was appointed (by Holy Spirit directing the work) to an elder, he was given positions of trust, he was a trustee in the congregation of Mill Hill

3. Porter was given, by Ron Drage et al an elevated position in Bethel for 7 years

4. What did he (Porter) do (Look after the service desk, protect the Pedofiles???)

This all took place on Ron Drage's et al shift, Ron and his fellow elders should all take collective responsibility and stand down

Jim

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Is Ron Drage, Head of JWs in UK, Associated with Michael Porter Pedofile???

by Jim Dee in

a michael porter is listed as a trustee at the mill hill congregation - which is where the bethel is and the bethelites go to.

listed below are the trustees.

extract from the central register of charities maintained by the charity commission for england and wales.

Jim Dee

A Michael Porter is listed as a Trustee at the Mill Hill Congregation - which is where the Bethel is and the Bethelites go to

Listed below are the Trustees

Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

Main Charity 1065638

LONDON, MILL HILL CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Click link for more details

Trustees	MR ELIOT WILLIS
	MR ROGER DUBOIS
	MR ANDREW DAVIES
	MR DAVID JOHNSON
	MR IVOR DARBY
	MR PAUL WADE
	MR PHILIP MARSH
	MR REGINALD DAVID
	MR ROBERT EDWARDS
	MR RONALD DRAGE
	MR STEPHEN HUAGIE
	MR STEPHEN BERNARD CHARLES CHARLES
	MR ORLANDO ZENI
	MR WILLIAM MACKENZIE
	MR JONATHAN CALDWELL
	MR MAURICE INGLES
	MR MICHAEL PORTER
	MR ALISTAIR THOMSON

Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

Main Charity 1065638

LONDON, MILL HILL CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Click link for more details

Trustees	MR ELIOT WILLIS
	MR ROGER DUBOIS
	MR ANDREW DAVIES
	MR DAVID JOHNSON
	MR IVOR DARBY
	MR PAUL WADE
	MR PHILIP MARSH
	MR REGINALD DAVID
	MR ROBERT EDWARDS
	MR RONALD DRAGE
	MR STEPHEN HUAGIE
	MR STEPHEN BERNARD CHARLES CHARLES
	MR ORLANDO ZENI
	MR WILLIAM MACKENZIE
	MR JONATHAN CALDWELL
	MR MAURICE INGLES
	MR MICHAEL PORTER
	MR ALISTAIR THOMSON

If this is the same Michael Porter - and it looks that way, then he is associated with Ron Drage and Bethel - the cover up goes all the way up to the top in JW's in the UK.

Jim

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Is Ron Drage Associated with Michael Porter?????

by Jim Dee in

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a michael porter is listed as a trustee at the mill hill congregation - which is where the betherl is and the bethelites go to.

listed below are the trustees.

extract from the central register of charities maintained by the charity commission for england and wales.

Jim Dee

A Michael Porter is listed as a Trustee at the Mill Hill Congregation - which is where the Betherl is and the Bethelites go to

Listed below are the Trustees

Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

Main Charity 1065638

LONDON, MILL HILL CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Click link for more details

Trustees	MR ELIOT WILLIS
	MR ROGER DUBOIS
	MR ANDREW DAVIES
	MR DAVID JOHNSON
	MR IVOR DARBY
	MR PAUL WADE
	MR PHILIP MARSH
	MR REGINALD DAVID
	MR ROBERT EDWARDS
	MR RONALD DRAGE
	MR STEPHEN HUAGIE
	MR STEPHEN BERNARD CHARLES CHARLES
	MR ORLANDO ZENI
	MR WILLIAM MACKENZIE
	MR JONATHAN CALDWELL
	MR MAURICE INGLES
	MR MICHAEL PORTER
	MR ALISTAIR THOMSON

Extract from the Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales

Main Charity 1065638

LONDON, MILL HILL CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Click link for more details

Trustees	MR ELIOT WILLIS
	MR ROGER DUBOIS
	MR ANDREW DAVIES
	MR DAVID JOHNSON
	MR IVOR DARBY
	MR PAUL WADE
	MR PHILIP MARSH
	MR REGINALD DAVID
	MR ROBERT EDWARDS
	MR RONALD DRAGE
	MR STEPHEN HUAGIE
	MR STEPHEN BERNARD CHARLES CHARLES
	MR ORLANDO ZENI
	MR WILLIAM MACKENZIE
	MR JONATHAN CALDWELL
	MR MAURICE INGLES
	MR MICHAEL PORTER
	MR ALISTAIR THOMSON

If this is the same Michael Porter - and it looks that way, then he is associated with Ron Drage and Bethel - the cover up goes all the way up to the top in JW's in the UK.

Jim